If youāve been on baby TikTok, you might have stumbled across Bryan and Chris Lambillotteās channel (@itsbryanandchris), which is filled with educational and heartwarming videos about their surrogacy journey as a gay couple. Ā Theyāve left no topic off the table in order to inspire and inform curious minds and prospective parents around the world, sharing everything from the logistics of in-vitro fertilization (IVF) to emotional milestones like the momentĀ they found out that their surrogate was pregnant with their twins, Brecon and London. Ā In celebration of Pride Month, Bryan sat down with us to discuss their rocky but rewarding surrogacy experience, their mission to demystify and destigmatize a process thatās still shrouded in taboo, tender moments they shared setting up their nursery, and their hope to raise their children to be unabashedly themselves. Ā Ā Bryan and Chris in their safari-themed nursery, which features the babylettoĀ Hudson 3-in-1 Convertible CribĀ in Grey,Ā Toco Glider & OttomanĀ in Performance Grey Eco-Weave, andĀ Tally Bookshelf. Ā TIMELINE OF BRYAN AND CHRIS' SURROGACY PROCESS Ā June 2020: Hoping to have twins, Bryan and Chris find an IVF doctor and surrogacy agency and test their sperm for viability. Ā August 2020: With the help of their agency, they find an egg donor that meets their criteria and egg retrieval takes place. Their embryos are fertilized, screened, and stored in a freezer at the clinic. Ā October 2020: They āmatchā with their first surrogate after interviewing her, which is when both parties agree to work with each other. āThere are surrogates out there who arenāt willing to work with an LGBTQ+ couple, which was kind of hard, but thatās the personās prerogative and choice. We made sure [to be clear] in our criteria because we didnāt want to find out after the fact that some person that we talked to that we thought was nice wasnāt willing to work with us because we were a gay couple,ā Bryan said. Ā December 2020: The surrogate they initially matched with does not pass medical evaluations and they part ways with her. Ā March 2021: Bryan and Chris meet with their second surrogate candidate and she passes all the required psychological and medical evaluations and starts a birth control regimen and hormone routine but discovers that she is pregnant with her own child. āI was just devastated again because now weāve lost our second surrogate. I was almost at that point of like, āIām done. I donāt want to do this anymore. The universe is telling us that maybe weāre not supposed to have babies because this is so hard,āā Bryan said. āEvery time we matched with a surrogate, for them to do a psych evaluation, to get checked out by the doctor, attorneys, contracts ā all of that costs money, and all of that is out of our pocket. None of it gets refunded because the vendors fulfilled their jobs and their duties.ā Ā May 2021: Bryan and Chris begin the search for a surrogate for the third time. āMost couples that go through surrogacy might lose their first surrogate, but when we were ready to start the process again, we took about a good month off because I was in a very dark place. Chris is my rock, so he brought me out of the trenches and back to: āThis is our journey. You really want to be a dad, and this is just something we have to keep pushing on.āā Ā June 2021: With the assistance of their agency, they match with a surrogate, and she passes all psychological and medical evaluations. They sign contracts and she begins hormone regimens. Ā July 2021: The embryo transfer of their twins takes place successfully. Ā March 9, 2022: Bryan and Chrisā surrogate gives birth to their twins via C-section. Ā Bryan and Chris in the hospital together shortly after their twins, Brecon and London, are born. Ā Ā OPENING UP TO THE WORLD THROUGH TIKTOK What motivated you to start sharing your journey on social media?Bryan: Surrogacy is not something that a lot of people know about. There are a lot of assumptions. Some people might know a little bit, but IVF, surrogacy, and egg donation have a negative stigma attached to it because people think, āOh, youāre going through IVF, whatās wrong with you, youāre broken.ā We love bringing more visibility and education and light to it whenever possible, because itās something that so many people go through, but there are plenty of people out there that are not like me, who are not open, who are very nervous and would not be comfortable speaking on a podcast or an interview to talk about it because it is so personal. Ā Overall, how have people received your content? What have been the positive and negative aspects of navigating social media? Bryan: In the beginning, we got the trolls who were like āYou guys canāt have babies, youāre two men. Whoās pregnant?ā But I will say, itās been way more positive than negative sharing our story. Thatās whatās so crazy about this platform ā TikTok just brings so many people together. So many grandmas or moms reach out to me being like, āMy little boy or my grandson is gay and heās seen your TikToks and heās like, āI canāt wait to have a family like Bryan and Chris.ā I have spoken with people in Europe, in Australia, in Asia, all around the United States, in Canada, in places where surrogacy is not even known or itās illegal. [Our story] brings them hope, that they might have a way to maybe remove themselves from that situation wherever they live, if they can, or move to a place that is more accepting of LGBTQ+ individuals and be able to have a family like ours. Ā BUILDING THE PERFECT NURSERY What was it like putting your nursery together? What was your favorite thing about it? Bryan:Ā Every time we were doing something in the nursery, whether it was building the cribs, moving the dresser in, putting up the wallpaper ā it felt like it wasnāt real. It felt like a dream because this is [Brecon and Londonās] space. This is where weāre going to bond with them, feed them, change their diapers, and watch them sleep. My favorite thing, in addition to building the cribs with Chris, was putting up the wallpaper with my dad. That was really nice because it was my dad, but itās also Grandpa! Grandpa is helping to put together this space for his grandchildren. I didnāt really know what I was doing, so to do that together, it almost felt like ā Iām his son and Iāll always be his son ā it almost was like a father-young son moment again where he was teaching me how to do something, which is something that Iām excited to do with Brecon and London at some point. Ā NAVIGATING EXPECTATIONS AND STEREOTYPES Do people have certain expectations for how youād raise your family because youāre an LGBTQ+ couple? Bryan: A lot of people have asked us on TikTok, āOh, are you going to raise them nonbinary or are you only going to use they/them because youāre an LGBTQ+ couple?ā And weāre kind of like, āWell, no, Brecon is a boy and London is a girl, so at this point, thatās how we will raise them.ā Once they are old enough to express their feelings and to express to us that maybe they donāt want to be called a certain word or a certain name, then weāll adjust. Maybe theyāre gay, maybe theyāre bi, or whatever that may be, we want to accept them wholeheartedly, 100 percent and support them to make sure that they feel loved all the time and that however they are, that they are exactly who theyāre supposed to be. Thereās nothing that needs to be changed based on what society might tell them to act or be. Ā CHALLENGING THE STATUS QUO As a torch-bearer of sorts for LGBTQ+ couples navigating the surrogacy process, what sort of impact do you hope to make in the media, or what change do you wish to see? Bryan: So much focus is on moms, who, by all means, are very important. They are the ones who carry and deliver the baby, go through so much pre, during, and post pregnancy, so they are obviously the ones to focus on and shed light on, but it has been a little sad or disheartening to not really see the fatherās perspective alongside the momās, or that of LGBTQ+ couples. It's not as common or as normalized in advertisements and media as I wish it were. Representation is definitely getting better, but itās very refreshing to work with companies like yours, that want to be inclusive and feature all different types of families. Ā What is the main thing or hope that you want people to take away from your parenting journey?Bryan: Thereās no specific guideline, look, or way to have a family. Every family is different. Some families have a mommy and a daddy, some have only a mom or only a dad. Some, like us, have two daddies, and no matter what you have at the end of the day, itās about the responsibility of being a good parent. The most important thing that we want to show people is that these children are loved and that they are protected, they are safe, and that they are going to be brought up in this world to be kind and thoughtful and to be good people. Ā Follow Bryan and Chris onĀ TikTokĀ andĀ Instagram! Explore their entire journey, fromĀ starting IVFĀ to assemblingĀ nursery furnitureĀ as new parents.